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Lets Talk Politics

This group is all about politics no matter who you support!! Lets see if we can get things done and make a change for the better.

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THE FIRST DEBATE!!!!!!

OK everyone says that Romney beat Obama in the debate and is that really shocking? Obama is the sitting President and he is dealing with a lot of stuff so maybe he wasn't at his best. While Romney had more time to prepare so he should of won. If everyone is going to have the debates decide who they are voting for then as a country we have more issues then you can shake a stick at.

 

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Third Party Politics and the Duopoly

Started by Alyssa Röhricht. Last reply by John Dewhurst Jan 20. 16 Replies

Who here is in favor of building up our third-parties? The lack of diversity of opinions expressed in the mainstream media and given attention during election season is terrible. Where is the…Continue

Deferring to Hispanics on Immigration

Started by Fred Bauder. Last reply by Fred Bauder Jan 1, 2013. 40 Replies

It has occurred to me that since immigration from Mexico, legal, illegal, with the benefit of amnesty, or without, affects Hispanics more than anyone else that the rest of us should defer to Hispanic…Continue

After the "Election", How Should We Oppose the Establishment?

Started by Jason Richardson-White. Last reply by John Dewhurst Nov 24, 2012. 8 Replies

Regardless of who wins this charade putatively known as an election, there will be the need for massive, ongoing grassroots efforts to fight the encroachments of... yes, the "Establishment".I'd like…Continue

The Politics of Single Payer

Started by DSA Hoosier. Last reply by DSA Hoosier May 16, 2011. 9 Replies

I think that adding this discussion is called for, so that Brother Joe and I don't blow out the comments section of this new group.I have been a supporter of and campaigner for the single-payer…Continue

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Comment by Anna Theofilopoulou on May 15, 2013 at 11:44am

We can trust Chris Hayes to flag out the real problem with the latest hoopla about the IRS targeting right wing organizations for scrutiny. As he points out, we can thank Citizens United for the proliferation of so-called social welfare groups claiming tax-exempt status, while being political PACs helping and targeting political candidates, pure and simple. While left wing PACs might have followed the same model, right wing and tea party groups  abused the tax code a lot more, which might help explain the IRS extra scrutiny. The republicans are already working full time to exloit their newly acquired victiimhood. The democrats, starting with the President, need not go overboard in their own righteous indignation to made amends.  Let's find out how many left wing groups have been targeted by the IRS and then let's focus seriously for the much needed debate on and reversal of Citizens United.

Comment by Anna Theofilopoulou on May 13, 2013 at 10:07am

The New Athenian: A racist attack every 2 days in Greece
www.thenewathenian.com

The shame of it! I've known that racism and xenophobia have been flourishing for a while now in my country of origin but was stunned to read the article above during my current visit. It appears that some Greeks have found a new scapegoat for the country's troubles instead of practicing some much needed introspection. And some politicians encourage it for their own purposes.

Comment by Anna Theofilopoulou on May 13, 2013 at 6:28am
An excellent piece by two respectable academics who clearly know what they are talking about, regarding the deadly side-effects of austerity. Visiting Greece my country of origin, right now, I can see even more closely the misery caused by the austerity and punishment administered by the EU, ECB and IMF. As for the GOP talking point, that the US will turn into Greece if it does not practice the austerity advocated by the plutocrats (for the middle class and the poor), it is nonsense, pure and simple. Continuing with the sequester and further cutting the deficit in the short term, both further increasing the unemployment, risks bringing the US closer to the pitiful condition of Greece.
How Austerity Kills
www.nytimes.com
People do not inevitably get sick or die because the economy has faltered. Fiscal policy can be a matter of life or death.
Comment by Alyssa Röhricht on March 21, 2013 at 12:11pm

How about student loan debt forgiveness? Anyone else burried in debt? http://thecrashculture.wordpress.com/2013/03/21/drenched-in-debt-a-...

Comment by Jason Richardson-White on February 9, 2013 at 4:07pm

Well, there's a reasonable attitude.  This sort of argument is guaranteed to make me NOT visit your site.  With all due respect, respectable reformers DO THE HARD WORK.  They sometimes go months, years, without notice, without respect -- sometimes, they go a lifetime.  Nelson Mandela was in jail for 20 years due to protesting apartheid in South Africa.

I'm not saying not to press for your position.  But, if you want respect for it, then you have to engage people where they are.  You have to listen, to find out what motivates them, engage in their lives, show that you care, own your own faults, and (at the end of the day) build credibility.

Since you're new, we'll give you a "bye".  Why not explain (succinctly) your plan?  If it can't be explained succinctly, then build up the plan slowly, over a period of time, say, in a series of blog posts.

I'm interested, but your manner of approach is that of a bully rather than a respectable intellectual.

Sincerely,

-Jason

Comment by Ron Mccune on February 9, 2013 at 3:24pm

What I am trying to do is to create a whole new kind of government for America and also to change for the better a lot of things in the world. My web page at www.mybetteramericaplan.com shows lots of ideas that will help all of you. On my web page I show how to totally reorganize our government so that it is better and less expensive than it is right now. I am the ONLY one in America who is offering a plan to get America out of the economic mess that it is in. It's either you do it my way or you can kiss your country, your life and your planet goodbye!!!!! 

Comment by Jacqueline Collins on February 3, 2013 at 4:37pm

I agree, It is a sleeper for the moment, as the Republcans are ancy about the publicity it received that it would basically be an effort to steal the election. We should not be surprised, however, that it comes up again around the election, and should be alert to broadcas it.

Comment by Fred Bauder on January 24, 2013 at 11:40am

Counting electoral votes by congressional district is a nasty sleeper. Romney would have won by many votes if this system was applied nationwide. Right now it applies only in Nebraska and Maine. The way it plays out is intimately related to efforts to draw districts to ensure minority representation and gerrymandering for safe districts generally. In order to create one safe minority district several adjoining safe conservative districts often result.

Comment by Jason Richardson-White on January 24, 2013 at 8:10am

{NOTE:  This snip is from an ongoing, daily digest emailed from Daily Kos.  It is some sobering news about Elections and the ongoing, subversive attack on Democracy using the vehicle of rigging the Electoral college.]

[BEGIN SNIP:  From Daily Kos, 08:00 on Jan 24, 2013]

Electoral College: Well, the Virginia state Senate is already at it again. Just two days after their underhanded maneuvering to force through a new, mid-decade redistricting plan, Republicans in the chamber began advancing a bill that would award the state's electoral votes by congressional district. According to Daily Kos Elections' analysis, Mitt Romney won seven districts in Virginia versus four for Barack Obama, even though the president carried the state (and all 13 of its EVs) by four percent last year. Even more dastardly, from the text of the legislation, it appears that the two "extra" electoral votes (which correspond to the state's U.S. senators) would go to whomever won the most CDs, not the overall winner of the statewide popular vote (as is currently the case in Maine and Nebraska). That means Romney would have nabbed nine EVs versus just four for Obama. Democracy! The only good news is that one Republican senator, Jill Holtzman Vogel, sided against the legislation in a subcommittee vote. While the measure is still likely to head to the Senate floor for a full vote, if Holtzman continues to defect (or any other Republican joins her), the scheme is doomed, since the chamber is evenly divided between the two parties. Still, I would never want to place any faith in the GOP doing the right thing. And ultimately, I think community member Chachy summed up this chilling development best:

Imagine the 2016 campaign unfolding with Nate Silver putting up posts about how the Democrat could only get 270 EVs if they won the national vote by, say, 4%? And even if they were favored in Virginia and Pennsylvania and Ohio and Wisconsin...? The whole campaign would be tinged by futility. It really would amount to a repeal of the popular election of presidents. How would the public react to that? How would the media react? It would approach the level of constitutional crisis, and is the sort of thing which, I really think, would have the potential to unravel our system of government. It's also worth considering that all but one Republican member of that committee is willing to take this risk.

Really stark—and really sobering.

[END SNIP]

Comment by John B Williman on November 7, 2012 at 12:44pm

My favorite quote for today is from Ann Coulter:  "Mitt Romney will be the nominee, and we'll lose!"  Thank you o most sapient prophetess.

 

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